Nick Mamatas ([info]nihilistic_kid) wrote,
@ 2003-12-07 03:30:00
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Out of the looney bin, into the home for "special people"
As discussed here last week, Authors Market, a front for per-unit vanity Publish America, slammed science fiction and fantasy writers and the genre as a whole as the refuge of the incompetent and the plagiarist, in an attempt to discredit anti-scam watchdogs like A. C. Crispin and Victoria Strauss.

After some complaints from PA "authors" who themselves write science fiction and fantasy, PA deleted the complaints from their message board and rewrote the text of Authors Market to make it better. Of course, they actually made it worse.

Only Trust Your Own Eyes:

Now, here's a word of caution. The vast, vast majority of SciFi and Fantasy writers are serious, honest, great artists. They have spent tons of time working on their books, just as hard as writers on any other genre. They are positive, resolute, hard-working, earnest folks, who are finding it just as hard as anyone else to break through the barrier put up by the publishing dinosaurs.

 But, alas, the SciFi and Fantasy genres have also attracted some of the lesser gods, writers who erroneously believe that SciFi, because it is set in a distant future, does not require believable storylines, or that Fantasy, because it is set in conditions that have never existed, does not need believable every-day characters. Obviously, and fortunately, there are not too many of them, but the ones who are indeed not ashamed to be seen as literary parasites and plagiarists, are usually the loudest, just like the proverbial wheel that needs the most grease.

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The vast majority of serious SciFi and Fantasy authors frown at this. They go to the supermarket, open that cheap book, see what these writers got away with, and they feel their frustration rise. "Why were these people published? My own book is at least two levels better." And more often than not they are right.


This last graf is the worst. Not only are they blasting the same advocates that they did previously, they are now claiming that the advocates, who are part of an official SFWA anti-scam program, are somehow universally disliked incompetents on the fringes on the genre. As they say on lawyer shows on tv, "nothing could be further from the truth."

Not to mention this: "two levels better"? WTF? Are these people thermostats? Dungeons & Dragons-obsessed nine year-olds? Scientologists? Martians? Who the hell talks like that!

They also added this new wrinkle:

And then there's a third category, a small band of chest-thumping writers who never got any farther than an e-book, almost exclusively in the SciFi sector. To the unsuspecting novice, they may make it look as if they have actually achieved something, enough to elevate them to the status of now being a publishing expert. Theirs is a parade that deserves to be rained on. In the book industry, being published as an e-book writer amounts to not being published at all.

This last is a reference to David L. Kuzminski, who runs the anti-scam site Preditors And Editors. PA flipped out after being listed as "not recommended" and it has been a war against sanity for them ever since They even ended up squatting on preditorsandeditors.com and other domains in an attempt to mess with the real P&E.

But the Authors Market has yet more to say:

But what is wrong with the other loudmouths, the ones who looted, leeched, or plagiarized their way to local stardom? What's wrong with them is that they claim a mantle of expertise about writing or being a writer in general that they don't possess. Many unpublished authors wrote a much better, and much more original, book than they did, and they know it.
 
PA is beneath contempt.


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[info]arcaedia
2003-12-07 07:28 am UTC (link)
I just noticed last night that they'd changed the text - and yes, it seems an obvious response to what's been going around the internet the last few days. I'm wondering of you've seen this: http://publishedauthors.net/ -- I'm not sure yet what the angle is but the "About Us" link at the bottom reveals it's another "service" of PA.

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[info]nihilistic_kid
2003-12-07 02:36 pm UTC (link)
The angle is pretty much another public display for PA authors, one that allows PA to retain control over the content of their authors' pages.

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[info]matociquala
2003-12-07 07:51 am UTC (link)
You just keep talking about this, sir.

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[info]misia
2003-12-07 08:14 am UTC (link)
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

"Look, Pa. A thundering herd of assholes on the horizon. Better go get the shotgun."

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[info]solarbird
2003-12-07 08:45 am UTC (link)
What's wrong with them is that they claim a mantle of expertise about writing or being a writer in general that they don't possess. Many unpublished authors wrote a much better, and much more original, book than they did, and they know it.
Oh. My. God.

They're Randites.

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[info]matociquala
2003-12-07 10:02 am UTC (link)
The phrase you're looking for is "Scam artistes" *g*

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[info]jenwrites
2003-12-07 10:20 am UTC (link)
Great business model. Slag people off in order to look better about yourself. Alas, it seems to be working for them, the bastards.

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Right on the money...both ways
[info]sclerotic_rings
2003-12-07 10:44 am UTC (link)
Oh, yes, Publish America is a scam, and not even a particularly original scam, but you have to admit that this little missive was a demented piece of genius. The whole "Us against the slimedogs who can't appreciate your talent" works like catnip on the frustrated wannabes who want to believe that their inability to be published is due to a longrange conspiracy and not because they couldn't write their way out of a pay toilet. I've dealt with these people for years (hell, I even had one as an editor back when I first started writing), and it's never the sheetrock characters, the implausible situations, or the fact that the writer apparently learned how to type by throwing cats at the keyboard. It's always the unnamable THEM that keep their dreams from becoming reality, allowing them to quit their dead-end jobs upon publication of their first short story and receiving million-dollar advances until the end of time.

So be it. I just wonder how long we have to wait until Publish America gets tired and joins in on International Slushpile Bonfire Day?

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Re: Right on the money...both ways
[info]nihilistic_kid
2003-12-07 11:49 am UTC (link)
It reminds me more and more of Amway, actually. All those suckers working for a living in their J. O. B.s (Just Over Broke), the real small businesses or franchises are all out to get out, while Amway is both American and Christian...though of course all faiths are welcome. PA certainly appeals to both petty nationalism and evangelicalism. The text is partially designed to get hits from google searches of "Christian publishing," and PA victims often appeal to the Christianity of fellow victims.

Part of this is pretty simple: the biggest pigeon in the world is the sucker who think Jesus told him to write and publish a book.

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[info]wilhemina
2003-12-07 10:46 am UTC (link)
My latest story is at least THREE levels above anything you'd find in a glossy mag, so I know what they're talking about.
I'm hpoing with some effort, though, I can ratchet it up to the fourth level of excellence.

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Even Lawyers Are Against PA
[info]yakker
2003-12-07 11:05 am UTC (link)
The 22 November entry from this independent lawyer's blog sums it up well:

http://scrivenerserror.blogspot.com/2003_11_01_scrivenerserror_archive.html#106951854699130019

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[info]iagor
2003-12-07 12:09 pm UTC (link)
Makes me wonder if the author of the PA mess is a frustrated Scifi writer himself. Some of that stuff is just bitter enough, like the bit about levels, to point in that direction. It's not an uncommon attitude. After all it's much easier to blame the industry rather than to try to better oneself.

Still, I wonder about the transition the author must've gone through. "My book is better than 99% of the drivel out there, but I am not getting published. The system is against me! Well, I'll beat them anyhow! I'll... I'll... I'll run a scam site that leeches off other struggling authors! Yeah, that will show them."

How sad for him.

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[info]nihilistic_kid
2003-12-07 12:10 pm UTC (link)
He actually wrote a positive thinking/succeed at life book!

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[info]iagor
2003-12-07 12:17 pm UTC (link)
Ha! Oh, that's too ironic to be real. What's the title? "How to scam and delude people?" "8 Ways to Profit from a Wannabe's Dream?" Must stop before I make some really bad puns.

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[info]nihilistic_kid
2003-12-07 01:31 pm UTC (link)
Those Who Win Are Those Who Think They Can, a sentiment which is itself out of the Amway/est/scammer's Bible.

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[info]oblomova
2003-12-07 02:28 pm UTC (link)
This adds credence to the point made in the Scriveners Log, in the link posted above: the bar in publishing is set lowest for "self-help" titles.

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[info]astrophysicat
2003-12-08 10:49 am UTC (link)
oh my god my probable-future mother-in-law has that book! Eep, must save her!

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[info]tanaise
2003-12-07 01:55 pm UTC (link)
They're responsible for comma shortages all over the country aren't they?

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